On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Steve Diamond <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am not sure I see how this creates a huge turnout for Romney, if that
> was your view. I do see that it can reenergize the AFL throughout the
> midwest who now have a target they can focus on in the wake of the Walker
> debacle.


The hardcore zealots love Ryan. So they will do the hard work of phone
banking and door to door mobilizing. Some of them might have otherwise sat
on their hands.

>
> On the other hand a Rubio pick would have avoided an unnecessary battle
> with labor in the industrial heartland and possibly opened up the SxSW.
>

Labor is going to support Obama no matter what.

>
> The minute the word "fiscal" gets spoken people drift off and that seemed
> to be exactly what happened during Ryan's speech today.
>

Yeah but Ryan is VEEP candidate not POTUS. So charisma does not matter.

>
> The last guy to run on an austerity program was someone named Jimmy Carter.
>

Both candidates are running on an austerity program in reality. Both
candidates are claiming otherwise.

>
> And the last successful ticket without a southerner on board (assuming we
> count Obama as a southerner in light of his natural connection to the large
> black population there; and Delaware is of course as far south as W. Va.)
>

Umm that is like saying a dog has five legs if we count a tail as a leg.
Boy, we are really proving my point about this being idle chit-chat. It is
hard to imagine this leading to anything substantive.  I'm participating
because I'm too sleepy to do anything that requires thought, but unable to
sleep. I think I'm going to put down the keyboard and try, though.


> was FDR and Henry Wallace.
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Breaking News Alert
>> > The New York Times
>> > Saturday, August 11, 2012 -- 7:16 AM EDT
>> > -----
>> >
>> > Mitt Romney Names Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as His Running
>> Mate
>> > Mitt Romney has chosen Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin to be
>> his
>> > running mate and will introduce him on Saturday morning in Norfolk,
>> Va., the
>> > campaign said, a selection that shakes up the presidential race and
>> presents
>> > a Republican ticket that offers a sharp choice for voters in November.
>> >
>> > The announcement comes at the start of four-day tour through four
>> critical
>> > battleground states, with Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan poised to travel
>> together.
>> >
>> > “Mitt’s choice for VP is Paul Ryan,” an announcement on the campaign’s
>> > mobile phone application said Saturday morning.> Read More:
>> > http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na
>> > Copyright 2012 The New York Times Company
>> --
>> Jim Devine / If you're going to support the lesser of two evils, you
>> should at least know the nature of that evil.
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