I will take whatever answer you want to give, however you define it.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Capitalism and the 'undeniable' rise in living standards

I'm not sure that I would agree that a constituent assembly is a "structure." 
David. It seems to me it is an action: constituents assemble at the behest of 
initiatives undertaken by broad popular participation. That action may 
eventually congeal into a structure. Whether or not such a structure is deemed 
'democratic' would be essentially contested.

Is a plebiscite -- conceived, administered, financed and manipulated by elites 
-- "democratic" as long as the majority of the population is "eligible" to 
register a choice between two offered candidates?
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Shemano 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Carroll Cox writes:

"Anti-capitalist movements at least in principle can/could overthrow capitalist 
regimes, leading to democratically organized constituent assemblies."

There are two statements here.  The first is that anti-capitalist movement can 
overthrow capitalist regimes (i.e., anti-capitalist revolutions can occur).  
The second statement is that such revolutions can lead to democratic political 
structures.

I am curious about the second statement.  In your view (the generic you), what 
is the evidence for the second statement?  This is not intended as a 
contentious question.  The fact that I may disagree with you about whether any 
specific post-revolutionary political structure is democratic, or an 
improvement, is irrelevant to the question.  The questions is, from your 
perspective, what is the evidence that supports the statement that 
anti-capitalist revolutions can lead to democratic political structures?

David Shemano
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