I don't disagree with any of this. And I am all for downplaying moralizing.
You just can't get rid of it entirely and still have a coherent political
philosophy (which is I think something you agree with).

I have tried but failed to understand Carroll's position on this. Oh well.
-raghu.

^^^^
CB: Yes, I agree. I sent the original post which is the thread heading
(from a facebook meme). I'm in favor of atheists and non-religious
people having empathy which is, in my opinion, correctly characterized
as the core of morality.  So, I'm for universal ability to empathize
with others or morality.  I think M and E "downplay" morality
specifically as the underpinning of the Marxist project, but
otherwise, in raising children for example,  I don't think they oppose
establishing universal ability to empathize. In fact ,as I said, for
Marx and Engels themselves, who were not members of the working class,
their whole life project of supporting the working class members
self-interests is morally based , by my logic.  So, for non-working
class Marxists, we should be honest that empathizing or moralizing
does underpin our Marxism. I admitted that to myself a long time ago.
The other little piece is that they are warning that we can't rely on
the morality of most capitalists as a basis for ending capitalism.

So, I agree with you.
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