I have not seen the whiff of dissent, but rather nasty personal jibes. Michael Lebowitz who has firsthand experience in Venezuela has more information than all of us put together. From what I understand, he has disagreements about some policies there and support for others.
Bandying about labels - neo-stalinist, fascist, or, on the other hand, portraying Chavez as a demigod - serves no purpose. This entire thread should be put to sleep. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [email protected] michaelperelman.wordpress.com From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Diamond Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:40 AM To: Progressive Economics Subject: Re: [Pen-l] President Hugo Chávez Dies - NYTimes.com And yet the mere whiff of dissent expressed here causes apoplexy. On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Robert Naiman wrote: One of Chavez' greatest achievements is that it's almost totally irrelevant to the future of Venezuela what people in the United States think about him. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, michael perelman <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');>> wrote: I agree with Doug, but, please Steve. Lay off on this. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Steve Diamond <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');>> wrote: > So, just so I understand, Doug, you acknowledge then that authoritarian > measures were real but they were justified because of US pressure on the > regime? > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Doug Henwood > <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');>> > wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Steve Diamond >> <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');>> >> wrote: >> >> > In any case perhaps post Chavez a genuine democratic politics can emerge >> > in Venezuela. >> >> Oh lordy, this. >> >> All you left purists who think Chavez was so nasty. You try running a >> revolutionary state. Reduce poverty, keep the electricity running, avoid >> CIA-backed bourgeois counterrevolution. Yeah, sure. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > > > > -- > Stephen Diamond > Associate Professor of Law > Santa Clara University School of Law > Office: (408) 554-4813<tel:%28408%29%20554-4813> > Fax: (408) 868-9173<tel:%28408%29%20868-9173> > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 530 898 5321<tel:530%20898%205321> fax 530 898 5901<tel:530%20898%205901> http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l -- Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org<http://www.justforeignpolicy.org> [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> -- Stephen Diamond Associate Professor of Law Santa Clara University School of Law Office: (408) 554-4813 Fax: (408) 868-9173
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