I think it's a symptom of alienation. Some people in the U.S. who
consider themselves leftists have given up on U.S. politics, so it's
easier for them to get unnaturally invested in the politics of places
where they have no say.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Steve Diamond
<[email protected]> wrote:
> And yet the mere whiff of dissent expressed here causes apoplexy.
>
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Robert Naiman wrote:
>>
>> One of Chavez' greatest achievements is that it's almost totally
>> irrelevant to the future of Venezuela what people in the United States think
>> about him.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, michael perelman
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Doug, but, please Steve.  Lay off on this.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Steve Diamond <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > So, just so I understand, Doug, you acknowledge then that authoritarian
>>> > measures were real but they were justified because of US pressure on
>>> > the
>>> > regime?
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Doug Henwood <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Steve Diamond <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > In any case perhaps post Chavez a genuine democratic politics can
>>> >> > emerge
>>> >> > in Venezuela.
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh lordy, this.
>>> >>
>>> >> All you left purists who think Chavez was so nasty. You try running a
>>> >> revolutionary state. Reduce poverty, keep the electricity running,
>>> >> avoid
>>> >> CIA-backed bourgeois counterrevolution. Yeah, sure.
>>> >>
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