And yet the mere whiff of dissent expressed here causes apoplexy. On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Robert Naiman wrote:
> One of Chavez' greatest achievements is that it's almost totally > irrelevant to the future of Venezuela what people in the United States > think about him. > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, michael perelman < > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> I agree with Doug, but, please Steve. Lay off on this. >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Steve Diamond >> <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> '[email protected]');>> >> wrote: >> > So, just so I understand, Doug, you acknowledge then that authoritarian >> > measures were real but they were justified because of US pressure on the >> > regime? >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Doug Henwood >> > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Steve Diamond >> >> <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> >> '[email protected]');> >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > In any case perhaps post Chavez a genuine democratic politics can >> emerge >> >> > in Venezuela. >> >> >> >> Oh lordy, this. >> >> >> >> All you left purists who think Chavez was so nasty. You try running a >> >> revolutionary state. Reduce poverty, keep the electricity running, >> avoid >> >> CIA-backed bourgeois counterrevolution. Yeah, sure. >> >> >> >> Doug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> pen-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> '[email protected]');> >> >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Stephen Diamond >> > Associate Professor of Law >> > Santa Clara University School of Law >> > Office: (408) 554-4813 >> > Fax: (408) 868-9173 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > pen-l mailing list >> > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> '[email protected]');> >> > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Perelman >> Economics Department >> California State University >> Chico, CA >> 95929 >> >> 530 898 5321 >> fax 530 898 5901 >> http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> '[email protected]');> >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> > > > > -- > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > -- Stephen Diamond Associate Professor of Law Santa Clara University School of Law Office: (408) 554-4813 Fax: (408) 868-9173
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