Thus Mr. Hobbes:

"The Value, or Worth of a man, is as of all other things, his Price; that
> is to say, so much as would be given for the use of his Power: and
> therefore is not absolute,; but a thing dependent on the need and judgement
> of another. An able Conductor of Soldiers is of great Price in time of War
> present, or imminent; but in Peace not so. A learned and uncorrupt Judge is
> much Worth in time of Peace; but not so much in War. And as in other
> things, so in men, not the seller, but the buyer determines the Price. For
> let a man (as most men do,) rate themselves at the highest Value they can;
> yet their true Value is no more than it is esteemed by others."




On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Julio Huato <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eubulides wrote:
>
> > In all my years of living, suffering and study I've yet to
> > see/think/feel that there is a shred of evidence that we *need* the
> > concept, let alone theories, of value, to reduce the self-inflicted
> > suffering of humanity.
>
> I agree.  We don't need any scientific concept of value to lead a
> comfy life within the confines of this society.  We only need it if we
> want to know what the deeper content of value is so we have a better
> sense of how to give that content a different social form, how to
> build a better society, one more adequate to our humanity.  That's
> all.
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Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
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