this makes more sense to me than a boycott of air flight: http://www.flyingclean.com/take_action
(If I refuse to fly somewhere, that frees up a seat for someone else. The airlines always fill those planes!) On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Raghu wrote: > >> If PEN-Lers as a group stopped taking airplane flights, >> those planes will still fly ... perhaps with a few empty >> seats. > > I think so too. Pen-L is not big enough to make a > difference by itself. A cultural shift is necessary > according to which flying for frivolous reasons is no longer > ok. Climate scientists and economists are natural groups to > *start* such a shift. > >> And if you think you can shame people into following a >> noble example, think again > > If it is true that I tried to shame you, then my doubts > about my self-worth interfered with the message I tried to > convey. Don't write off the message because of this noise. > The need to drastic actions in order to avoid 4 degrees > celsius is scientifically proven. > >> most people will hate you for it and likely avoid and >> ostracize you. > > Things are not so black and white. > > Some people in the University administration do not like me, > but others support me. > > If I get openly hateful responses to my warning about the > coming disaster in a conversation, I look for a way to end > the conversation which does not burn bridges or otherwise > prevents resumption of the conversation at a later date. > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante. _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
