My comment that he wasn't offering much in the way of a solution could be read 
as a criticism, though i hastened to add it wasn't his or anyone's fault; a 
program, detailed or not, requires the right conditions to be effective.- I 
said the thrust of his essay was basically correct in calling on the left to 
get closer to working class struggles. And I thought I made it clear that 
someone like Shotwell "who has done labor most of us could not even do, and he 
has put his money where is mouth is for a very long time" has my respect. That 
evidently didn't come through, unfortunately.

On 2014-04-15, at 9:05 PM, michael yates wrote:

> I re-read Gregg's essay, and now I am somewhat surprised by Marv 
> 
> and Carrol's criticisms. Here is a guy who has done labor most
> 
> of us could not even do, and he has put his money where is mouth
> 
> is for a very long time. He says solidarity is key, that an injury
> 
> to one is an injury to all. But let's not bullshit how embedded
> 
> we all are inside of capitalism, which corrupts us just like it 
> 
> does everyone else. He urges us to confront our employers, as the
> 
> Chicago teachers and nurses and a few other groups of workers have.
> 
> He says that workers, if they are to rebuild the working class
> 
> as a class for itself, will have to become radicals. 
> 
> 
> So what am I missing? He doesn't lay out a detailed program, but
> 
> we sure as shit don't have one ourselves. Some of us go on and on
> 
> about the lamest stuff, about some intellectual's shallow
> 
> nonsense, but here is a worker we should all aspire to
> 
> be like. Let's get on his side, support working class struggles, and 
> 
> get our own acts together.                                      


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