I understand that, but what does it have to do with Conquest specifically?  The 
mainstream, the conventional wisdom, etc., treat Conquest as authoritative.  He 
wrote on the subject for 50 years with his reputation intact at his death, 
except for some on the Left.  So I want to know what do the people on this list 
know that everyone else got wrong about Conquest?  What facts can you point to 
that would lead a neutral observer to conclude that (1) Conquest made a 
material factual error, or (2) Conquest reached a conclusion that was not 
simply based upon incomplete facts, but where the known facts better supported 
an opposite conclusion.

And perhaps the more important question is why does it matter if Conquest was 
right or wrong?  If Conquest was right, will that cause you to change your mind 
about anything important?

David Shemano

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David, people, including those with an ax to grind, make all sorts of 
supposedly factual assertions, which can be difficult to disprove.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Shemano, David B. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So the issue is not that anyone has ever disproved a Conquest factual 
assertion, but instead that Conquest's evidence for a specific assertion is 
allegedly weak. I suppose that is always a challenge for a historian -- drawing 
conclusions from incomplete information, and we all have a subjective standard 
of proof based upon the issue at hand. For some, there will never be enough 
proof that Oswald killed Kennedy. But a key reason why Oswald is assumed to be 
the killer is not that the evidence for Oswald is necessarily conclusive, but 
that the evidence for every other alternative is much weaker. So, give me an 
example of a factual assertion by Conquest for which there is contrary evidence 
that is now universally recognized (by professional historians) as more 
compelling.

David Shemano

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David Shemano wrote: "What factual assertions by Conquest have been factually 
disproved?"

Of course, one need not factually disprove an assertion by Conquest, if your 
question implies anything more than demonstrating that Conquest did not 
establish as fact many of his factual assertions. For that, there are too many 
to list here. For a start with plenty of references, see 
http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/08/05/grover-furr-on-robert-conquest/

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