On 8/11/15 1:39 PM, Charlie wrote:
> Leave it to Louis the T. to fulminate about Stalin and to call Getty,
> Furr, and anyone else who disagrees "freaks." Louis' view of what
> happened is virtually identical to those of Robert Conquest, agent of
> British black propaganda and lord in residence at the Hoover
> Institution. To be sure, their prescriptions - imperialist "democracy"
> or Trotskyist recipe - differ.

Charlie, don't you realize how ridiculous you seem by accusing Trotsky 
of being a Nazi spy?

Here is a useful rebuttal to the Furry view of Soviet history although I 
doubt that it would make any difference to someone who forwards articles 
from the Stalin Society of America to PEN-L.


http://k2.kasamaproject.org/threads/entry/on-grover-furr-and-the-moscow-trials

Firstly, if the verdicts at the Moscow Trials were correct, then a vast 
conspiracy of a number of Soviet government officials, party members 
(current and former), and military leaders was in league with Nazi 
Germany, Imperial Japan, Polish intelligence, and British intelligence. 
However, no evidence has come to light from the archives of any of these 
countries to substantiate these extraordinary claims. For instance, 
historians and scholars have been working in the archives of Nazi 
Germany for decades and found nothing to prove the existence of a vast 
conspiracy.

You claim that the Trotsky archives contain evidence of a bloc in 1932 
with Riutin and Zinoviev (along with other elements of the former right 
opposition). And that this is confirmed by the archival evidence of J 
Arch Getty and Pierre Broue. However, neither makes the claim that the 
bloc contemplated terrorist or wrecking activities. Nor does any of the 
available evidence support that. In fact, the evidence supports the 
conclusion that this bloc broke up in May 1933 after “Zinoviev and 
Kamenev had capitulated to Stalin, recanted their sins and repledged 
their loyalty to the Stalinist faction. Their departure from opposition 
embittered Trotsky. In a 23 May article he described the two as pitiful, 
tragic, and subservient. On 6 July he railed against them once again and 
denounced their capitulation in strong terms. The leaders (if not the 
lower workers) of the bloc were gone. Both of Trotsky's non-public 
strategies were now in ruins.”3
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