I would reply to this, but it is too much of a chore to reformat it.

Devine, James wrote:
[was: RE: [PEN-L] Panglossian economics]

It looks to me as if the basic story is that the Western Europeans enjoyed some sort 
of luck that has nothing to do with genetic or cultural differences between Europeans 
and Asians. This luck allowed them to (1) conquer the Asians and other non-Europeans 
and (2) get beyond mere market economics to develop the capitalist mode of production 
before the Asians and other non-Europeans did so. Then, the conquests of non-Europeans 
and the development of capitalist became a mutually-reinforcing process, with 
conquests feeding capitalist development and capitalist development allowing further 
conquest.

Blaut and his followers seem to see this kind of story as being somehow "Eurocentric" even 
though it's based on luck -- and as JKS suggests, there's nothing good about foisting capitalism on the 
world, so it doesn't made Europe look good vis-a-vis non-Europe. To my mind, a Blautian criticism that 
rejects theories as "Eurocentric"  would point to a genetic and/or a cultural explanation as 
central to those theories. And it might  praise non-European areas for _not_ developing capitalism, 
especially if capitalism isn't some sort of prerequisite for the development of a future humane society 
(socialism).

Also, unlike Marx, Lenin. and modern Marxian political economy, Blaut and his 
followers seem to conflate markets with capitalism.

On the last, someone on the list said that the idea that antebellum Southern slavery is "not very 
controversial." It is with me. Slavery -- even when embedded within a capitalist social formation and 
dominated internationally by capitalist social relations -- is not capitalist. It is not an example of the 
capitalist mode of production.  The direct producers were not "free in the double sense," which 
Marx saw as the _differentia specifica_ of capitalist social relations. That is, though the slaves were 
free from direct ownership of the means of subsistence and production (one type of freedom), they were 
clearly not free from bondage (the other type).

The slave-owners may have thought like capitalists (as Fogel & Engerman argued) but that doesn't 
mean that they _were_ capitalists. Instead of considering ways to control workers via mechanization, for 
example, they thought about the costs and benefits of whipping the slaves (at least according to 
F&E). One's status of being a "capitalist" depends on the societal context, not on one's 
self-perception or way of thinking (at least in Marxian political economy).

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine

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