I hope that we can discuss this without acrimony.  I understand that at
the time of the British conquest of India, India was probably more
advanced in England, which was a backwater of Europe.  England had,
however, extraordinarily good cannons -- may be the equivalent of our
airplanes in Iraq.  India had nothing to counter them.  Unlike the US,
understand that England was able to harness some of the traditional
feudal government structures in India.

But please, I sense some irritation boiling up in this discussion as
well as the Russian thread.  Let's keep it amicable.


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901

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Devine, James wrote:

>It looks to me as if the basic story is that the Western Europeans
>enjoyed some sort of luck that has nothing to do with genetic or
>cultural differences between Europeans and Asians. This luck allowed
>them to (1) conquer the Asians and other non-Europeans and (2) get
>beyond mere market economics to develop the capitalist mode of
>production before the Asians and other non-Europeans did so.

I know this is dangerous territory, since it will cause explosions in
certain volatile quarters. But is "luck" the right word? Something
happened within Europe that encouraged conquest and led to the
reinvestment of surplus rather than its consumption. I realize that
historians have devoted their lives to examining just what this
something was, but luck makes it sounds like winning at roulette
rather than something explicable by social science.

Doug

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