On 11/9/05, Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Both in this book and in The New Imperialism, David calls for some
> >kind of New New Deal, as if we could somehow recover the world
> >of...well I'm not sure what. 1978? 1958? 1938? The New Deal happened
> >in this country because the economy had collapsed and the USSR
> >provided an alternative model of how to organize an economy. The New
> >Deal was a way for capital to give a little in order to preserve a
> >lot. What exists in the present situation that offers even a remote
> >promise of a re-run? Capitalism is triumphant and, aside from Hugo
> >Chavez' proclamation of a 21st century socialism, we're largely
> >incapable of even imagining a serious alternative. And I'd say that
> >David's invocation of the New Deal is symptomatic of our current
> >political impoverishment: we can't do much more than hope for a
> >reincarnation of a reformist movement from 70 years ago. Until we
> >can plausibly articulate something more substantial than that, we're
> >bound to lose. And we can't, at least not right now. With no sign of
> >a serious systemic threat, there's just no reason for the ruling
> >class to accept even a mild reformist agenda.
>

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Robyn Eckersly?

Carol Gould?

There's stuff 'out there' being imagined; operationalizing the medium
and fine grain without circular firing squads -a decidedly male
problem, note the use of the term *threat* above- is just one of the
myriad issues that would follow upon the congealing of contemporary
social movements.

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