Thanks to Luis P. and Julio H. for their thoughts.  A few questions to Julio:

Actually, I agree with Louis on this.  I think that, as things look
now, there's a clear opening for an independent campaign in 2008 with
opposition to the war, a new foreign policy (that really enhances
national security), and universal health care as the main issues.

But, and this is where the agreement with Louis probably ends, I don't
think that this will work if it is presented as an inflexible
decision, i.e., regardless of what may happen *in* the DP.  We have to
get out of our minds that political independence is the same as
mechanical, logistical, or organizational separation.  It is not.
Here and now, the way to conquer political independence, in the
*class* sense, is by engaging with the DP.  That's why I believe that
the independent campaign has to be carefully prepared since yesterday,
but not announced formally, until after the DP primaries.

Do you propose this inside-->outside approach for tactical or strategic
reasons?  I.E. are you publicly giving the Democrats a "last chance" so as
to show good faith to ordinary working people (who have a long history with
the DP and may be the first to suffer, even more than now, during any
transitional dip when their numbers are divided)?  Or do you actually
believe that, with the current dominance of US capital, there is some long
term chance (and benefit) to sharing the DP with the elements of business
that now control the party (or do you somehow see driving those elements out)?

IMHO, the way to attract the Democratic rank-and-filers (and that
decisive bunch of people who claim to be independent) is by making a
public commitment to *seriously consider endorsing* the DP candidate
*if and only if* such candidate *clearly* commits to troop withdrawal
and the progressive reform of foreign policy.  And then doing as we
say....

Do you really mean JUST the anti-war issue and no conditions on income
distribution, social support, etc?

But, I say, we can turn it around and have the
*public* pressure be on the DP to nominate an anti-war candidate.  It
can be a boost to the progressive wing of the party and brutal
pressure on the corrupt, pro-war leaders, because they will realize
that it is a de-facto threat of excision at the rank-and-file level

How do you take into account that you are dealing with feckless
politicians?  IF your approach gathers some strength they are likely to
declare themselves anti-war...and pro-war.  Or 2/3rds anti war.  Or
3/4s.  Or just an anti-war party platform.  Lyndon Johnson didn't run as
pro-war.  Are you counting on a sincere and definitive answer?

Paul

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