I like Daniel's statement, but I can think of another, less important reason -- 
how
imperialism deforms imperial societies.  Both victories and defeats have 
negative
consequences.


On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:48:25PM +0100, Daniel Davies wrote:
> I'm a Western leftist (of an admittedly rather odd sort) and surely the
> main, the only reason for being opposed to Western imperialist wars is that
> they kill people, in their hundreds of thousands, for no good purpose
> whatever.  I would and have spoken in favour of the cause of not invading
> some of the very worst regimes on earth, including Omar al-Bashir's Sudan,
> because the consequences are invariably to make things much worse.
>
> In related news, Louis is surely right to suggest that the controversy over
> Iran is entirely related to the fact that people really can't bear to be
> told that night is day and black is white.  If there were no Israelis online
> always pretending that Israel was a lovely place, the Gaza strip would be a
> minor conflict that few outside the middle east cared about.  Conversely, if
> there were a vocal community of Sudanese expats pretending that Khartoum was
> progressive, Darfur would never be out of the news.
>
> best
> dd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yoshie
> Furuhashi
> Sent: 25 October 2006 22:37
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Response to Stan Goff
>
>
> The way Western leftists talk about the rest of the world, those who
> hear them (if anyone hears them) would probably think, hey, why not
> let Washington invade any  country it likes anyhow?  There is nothing
> there to defend.
> --

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