I hardly know where to begin, given the amount of misinformation, and
misconstruction of facts and theories in your post, but........

1. Super-giant fields explored.  This is unknown.  There are those in
the industry who argue that only the surface super-giants have been
explored.  Western Iraq may hold reserves equal to all currently known
reserves in Iraq.   Then again it may not.

But either way-- the supposed negative correlation of field sizes and
dates  of discovery is another of the peak oil mis-theories.

2.  "My solution" is precisely not to "throw money," mostly because
there is  no evidence that peak oil is a problem, that peak oil is
driving any single aspect of capitalist activity.  The invasion of Iraq,
and the planned invasion of Iran, had and have absolutely nothing to do
with declining supplies.  Rather, the invasion, like the OPEC price run
ups, have everything to do with declining rates of return and
overproduction of oil, where the ease and reduced cost of production
caused the  price collapse of 1998.  Since then, it's all been about the
petroleum majors  aggrandizing more profit.  Check the portion of total
profits reported by S&P 500 that is actually claimed by the petroleum
companies.

3. As far as devaluing our currency and everyone getting bailed out with
valueless dollar-- first, it's not my currency, and I couldn't give a
rat's ass if and when it gets devalued, overvalued, undervalued, and or
goes to zero.   But as far as this mythology of the US valueless
dollars, and its fiat money, and its now looming weakness in the face of
BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and why not Japan, another big
holder of US currency instruments?)-- that's just that, a mythology.

People should look at Bernake's address in 2005 about the global savings
gluts-- and keep in mind that since 2001, US industries, US producers,
have spent far less of their earnings on investment and capital
expansion, than they have retained to their own accounts.  The
"unlocking" of US housing equity to finance the "expansion" of the
economy, is based on that fact, as the quickening of US household debt
was financed to replaced US corporate investment, and provide the market
for our now so much "stronger" trading partners.

The other component of this is the rapid and dramatic swing of the US
govt accounts from surplus to deficit-- a swing of some 7% of GNP in
about 2 years, as once again, reduced taxes and expanded military
spending put the retainer in retained earnings.

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Buffalo In Da' Midst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Peak Everything


> On 9/8/07, sartesian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about it?  How about  this:  Reserves, are by definition an
economic
> > category not geological.  By definitions reserves are an amount of
oil
> > that can be produced in a specified period of time, using the
currently
> > available technology, and at a profit.
> >
> >  You should look it up.
> >
> > The fact that every single peak oil theorist and advocate either
> > ignores, obscures, or  is simply unaware of the definition of
reserves
> > tells us all we really need to know about the theory, the theorists,
its
> > inevitability, and where the butter is on the bread.
> >
>
> I'm aware of what reserves are, and the structure of geological
> formations that allow FOR the creation of oil to fill those reserves
> (...all found, with ALL KNOWN super-giant field explored, except
> perhaps the planetary poles) and the difficulty the oil companies are
> going to have replenishing those reserves with increasingly smaller
> geological formations that DON'T replenish either... at least not for
> a loooooooong time.
>
> If your solution is 'throw money into exploration, development &
> recovery', the Iraq (and perhaps soon-to-be Iran) war, and the ongoing
> strife in Nigeria and other parts of Africa are an example of the
> expenditures in cash (almost a half-trillion dollars for Iraq
> currently) & social stability (MEND or some other player will
> eventually destroy the Nigerian government unless the U.S. wants to
> 'Somalia' them at another massive cost of war), then tell me how the
> oil companies would recoup their investment?
>
> Pass it on to the consumer buying increasingly expensive oil into an
> decreasingly valued dollar?
>
> I'm assuming of course that the continuation of wars made blatantly
> for the sole purpose of acquiring oil will devalue our currency and
> cause major sociological disturbances that will disrupt consumption
> patterns as well.
>
> ...or does everyone just get bailed out finally with valueless
dollars?
>
> lcm
>

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