Steve,

On 10/15/2013 07:03 PM, Stephen Kent wrote:
> Competent security folks were not surprised by the technical
> capabilities that have been revealed.
> It's obvious that one can gain access to tons of metadata with the
> assistance of service providers,
> and that a first world country can (and would) analyze that data looking
> for bad guys.

Competent people have been surprised by the scale here.
The level of collusion and coercion was not obvious to
many.

>From their pre-shutdown reaction, NIST appear both to
be surprised and to think something non-obvious has
occurred and I'm sure you'd consider NIST's crypto
people as being competent.

I think your comment above subtly understates the
situation in a way that's just not credible.

The subtlety is nicely done though:-)

S.
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