On 10/23/2013 12:52 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > On 22/10/2013 17:46, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> Yep, that's a useful post - we shouldn't rush too much, >> but we do want to get things done so that developers >> and deployers have something to use. >> >> I wonder what's the best way to proceed with this kind >> of stuff. I guess we want a BCP of some sort, but the >> question is how to handle the various different cases >> of foo-with-tls. >> >> - Yaron did a generic TLS BCP draft. [1] >> - PSA did an XMPP TLS BCP draft [2] >> - This sounds like we might want an SMTP TLS BCP draft >> or perhaps to add text to [3], but that's aiming for >> experimental and is just about using DANE. > I think some generic fallback rules can be protocol independent. But > needs of different protocols might be different. For example backward > compatibility with deployed TLS ciphers might be different for XMPP and > SMTP.
Sounds reasonable. I guess even if they have the same libraries the update cycles might differ. (Anyone know?) > I think SMTP TLS BCP would be a good idea. I think it should be > independent of DANE, because of the status of the DANE document. I would > be happy to work on it (and would be happy to collaborate with PSA to > discuss similarities and differences). Great. Let's talk in YVR about how to get that done so its a real BCP that gets followed in the wild. If someone else is up for helping I guess contact Alexey. Cheers, S. >> So at present we're heading towards a bunch of foo-with-tls >> BCPs. Could those usefully be merged or are they better >> kept separate? >> >> Thoughts? >> >> S. >> >> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-tls-bcp >> [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-xmpp-tls >> [3] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dane-smtp-with-dane > > _______________________________________________ > perpass mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass > > _______________________________________________ perpass mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
