> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]>wrote:

> >
> > >> I think SMTP TLS BCP would be a good idea. I think it should be
> > >> independent of DANE, because of the status of the DANE document.
> > >> I would be happy to work on it (and would be happy to collaborate
> > >> with PSA to discuss similarities and differences).
> > >
> > > Great. Let's talk in YVR about how to get that done so its a real
> > > BCP that gets followed in the wild. If someone else is up for
> > > helping I guess contact Alexey.
> >
> > Before this thread emerged, I suggested the idea of having a chat
> > about this topic during the AppsArea session on Monday morning (and
> > BTW there are no SEC area sessions opposite). That might be a good
> > place to start.
> >
> >
> Are you thinking of this in terms of MSAs in the RFC 6409 sense, as well as
> MTAs?   Though SMTP is used for both, the usefulness of things like DANE is
> likely to be different in the different contexts.

Quite right. SUBMIT is best thought of as a separate protocol that happens to
share a lot of syntax and semantics with SMTP. And I'd say the utility is
certain to be different. (I hope we don't have to go through the same
discussion we've just had regarding IMAP for SUBMIT.)

> That hints, unfortunately, that there is a strong possibility that the best
> current practice may be best specified in relation to a specific use of a
> protocol rather than generally to the protocol.

Agreed.

                                Ned
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