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On 10/24/13 1:43 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Peter Saint-Andre
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>>> I think SMTP TLS BCP would be a good idea. I think it should
>>> be independent of DANE, because of the status of the DANE
>>> document. I would be happy to work on it (and would be happy to
>>> collaborate with PSA to discuss similarities and differences).
>> 
>> Great. Let's talk in YVR about how to get that done so its a
>> real BCP that gets followed in the wild. If someone else is up
>> for helping I guess contact Alexey.
> 
> Before this thread emerged, I suggested the idea of having a chat 
> about this topic during the AppsArea session on Monday morning
> (and BTW there are no SEC area sessions opposite). That might be a
> good place to start.
> 
> 
> Are you thinking of this in terms of MSAs in the RFC 6409 sense, as
> well as MTAs?

I'm thinking about what Keith Moore posted in draft-moore-email-tls.
So yes, MSAs in the RFC 6409 sense (but also covering IMAP and POP).

> Though SMTP is used for both, the usefulness of things like DANE is
> likely to be different in the different contexts.
> 
> That hints, unfortunately, that there is a strong possibility that
> the best current practice may be best specified in relation to a
> specific use of a protocol rather than generally to the protocol.

So it seems.

We all need to up our game, but each of us might need to do so in
different ways.

Peter

- -- 
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/


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