On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

> their dictionary available for download is infringing copyright
> of the Aryanpours

What I understood from that discussion was that a lot of online
dictionaries are using Aryanpour data with no mention of the name
Aryanpour. Others mention Aryanpour but no sign that the Aryanpour estate
is getting any royalties or even that permission was asked or granted to
use their data. Then I even noticed this one:
http://www.aryanpour.com
where I'm not even sure any Aryanpour data was used!

Since the Aryanpour family was in the dictionary business before anyone
could foresee the computer age and with Iranian copyright laws being what
they are, I'm not sure even that legally speaking, these people are
breaking any laws. This data falls into a grey zone.

Now, morally speaking, I must say in principle, it is horrible to take
someone else's labor without permission, especially when the Aryanpour
family is still around and still making dictionaries.  I would like to
know if they care or are they so big and famous that this is of no
concern? Or maybe they are wringing their hands in despair that no one
cares and then they'll thank you, Behdad!  Why doesn't someone go knock on
their door and ask for an official statement! I am sure curious to know!

I don't think the Iranian Mac Users Group is any more or less guilty than
all the others using the Aryanpour data and unless the Aryanpour family or
their lawyers issue a directive, I can't do anything but urge people to
say where they got the data and also join in this and other discussions
because we are now entering the age of the database when all kinds of
things are going to go online and I'm sure everyone would like to feel
good about what they're doing. I think it's a good thing that nowadays
there are EULA's, etc where the owner can explicitly say what may or may
not be done with the property.

By the way, does anyone know of a Persian online dictionary which gives
any sort of pronunciation or transliteration info in Latin script? I mean
besides the Steingass and besides this one:
http://iranianlanguages.com/dictionary.php?eng-per which is obviously
being developed with much care and attention to quality but still seems to
not have a very large word base.

-Connie
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