This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Just pointing out that they are very different from the typical insects associated with cultural collections “Bed bugs and their eggs cannot withstand -20 F for 72 hours; not that bed bugs are a big deal in cultural collections anyway.” “It is true about bed bugs; they're tough critters. However, there's no way they are going to survive 72 hours at -20 F or -15 F, or even 0 F.” 0°F is effective in killing bed bugs, but items must be left in the freezer for at least 4 days (96 hours compared to 72 hours).
From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:59 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Freezer Trucks This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Group - I know this particular email from Tom Strang concerns freezer trucks. He's right on with what I've been saying all along; you don't have to reach -20 F in 4 hours. Let me address chest-type freezers. There seems to be confusion out there about them. There are lots of chest-type freezers available today that can maintain -20 F. And frost-free freezers are OK. Do an on-line search and you'll see what I'm saying. Bed bugs and their eggs cannot withstand -20 F for 72 hours; not that bed bugs are a big deal in cultural collections anyway. Tom Parker -----Original Message----- From: Tom.Strang <tom.str...@pch.gc.ca> To: pestlist <pestlist@museumpests.net> Sent: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 2:37 pm Subject: Re: [pestlist] Freezer Trucks This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dear Dana, You should not be disappointed with your low temperature treatment. I assume a record box is roughly 16 inches long, 12 inches wide and 10 inches high. Your email indicates they were stacked as walls. I assume they were stacked sides-abutting to make them more stable leaving a wall 16 inches thick. With close packed organic, akin to bales of agricultural product, your stack will have a time to thermal half change in about one day+. 72F degrees is 21C. -15 F is -26C, more than adequate to kill pest insects so not achieving -20F (-28C) is not a concern as -20C is quite sufficient for a week. The fact you achieved -26C from 21C means you dropped 47C in 4 days, about a time to half change of a day (remember the frog jumping half down a log, then half again.. when does the frog jump off the log puzzle). Were you at 5F at two days? if so you were pretty much spot on what can be estimated from the chart I published in 1994, and is available in the CCI TB29 and on our website (find "ten agents pests"). Hold them at your -15F setpoint and you will have had an efficacious treatment unless there was thermal bridging from the bottom of the van into the base of the stack. If they were on pallets, and air circulated under, all should be well. http://www.cci-icc.gc.ca/caringfor-prendresoindes/articles/10agents/chap06-eng.aspx Cheers, Sincerely, Tom Strang Canadian Conservation Institute | Institut canadien de conservation Senior Conservation Scientist | Scientifique principal en conservation Institut Canadien de Conservation | Canadian Conservation Institute Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1A 0M5 tom.str...@pch.gc.ca<mailto:tom.str...@pch.gc.ca> Téléphone | Telephone 613-998-3721 (extension 239) Télécopieur | Facsimile 613-998-4721 Téléimprimeur (sans frais) 1-888-997-3123 | Teletypewriter (toll-free) 1-888-997-3123 From: dana senge <dkse...@gmail.com<mailto:dkse...@gmail.com>> To: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> Date: 03/10/2012 08:50 PM Subject: [pestlist] Freezer Trucks Sent by: ad...@museumpests.net<mailto:ad...@museumpests.net> This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- We recently tried using a freezer truck to process a large number of boxes of archives. Record boxes were stacked in rows with 12" gaps between the rows to allow for air circulation. We placed a datalogger in the center of one of the boxes of archive materials (in the center of the truck) and another outside the boxes to measure the temperature of the air in the truck box. The results were surprising. We had been informed that the truck would go down to -20 degrees F in 4 hours. Our data loggers showed that it took 10 hours for the air in the truck to go from 44 degrees F to -15 degrees F, and the temperature inside one of the record boxes took ~96 hours to drop from 70 degrees to -15 degrees. (The boxes had been in a 72 degree environment before being placed in the truck box). It appears that the starting temperature of the boxes of paper was more difficult to reduce than I expected. And the truck never achieved the desired temperature. We are very disappointed in these initial results and are trying to figure out if there is a different strategy for using a freezer truck, or if this is just not feasible for freezing densely packed materials, such as paper packed in a record box. We are discussing packing boxes half full and packing the truck to allow for even more air circulation. But it seems that getting to the goal of -20 degrees F in 4 hours may not be feasible. Does anyone have any positive experiences working with a freezer truck for processing a large quantity of materials? Especially dense materials such as wood or boxes of paper? 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