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Hello Tom,

Thank you- we did achieve 5F within 48 hours.  I appreciate your
assessment of the data.

Take care,

Dana

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Dear Dana,
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> You should not be disappointed with your low temperature  treatment.
> I assume a record box is roughly 16 inches long, 12 inches wide and 10
> inches high. Your email indicates they were stacked as walls. I assume they
> were stacked sides-abutting to make them more stable leaving a wall 16
> inches thick.  With close packed organic, akin to bales of agricultural
> product, your stack will have a  time to thermal half change in about one
> day+.  72F degrees is 21C. -15 F is -26C, more than adequate to kill pest
> insects so not achieving -20F (-28C) is not a concern as -20C is quite
> sufficient for a week. The fact you achieved -26C from 21C means you
> dropped 47C in 4 days,  about a time to half change of a day (remember the
> frog jumping half down a log, then half again.. when does the frog jump off
> the log puzzle). Were you at 5F at two days? if so you were pretty much
> spot on what can be estimated from the chart I published in 1994, and is
> available in the  CCI TB29 and on our website (find "ten agents  pests").
> Hold them at your -15F setpoint and you will have had an efficacious
> treatment unless there was thermal bridging from the bottom of the van into
> the base of the stack. If they were on pallets, and air circulated under,
> all should be well.
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> http://www.cci-icc.gc.ca/caringfor-prendresoindes/articles/10agents/chap06-eng.aspx
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> Cheers,
> Sincerely,
> Tom Strang
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> From:   dana senge <[email protected]>
> To:     [email protected]
> Date:   03/10/2012 08:50 PM
> Subject:        [pestlist] Freezer Trucks
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> We recently tried using a freezer truck to process a large number of
> boxes of archives.  Record boxes were stacked in rows with 12" gaps
> between the rows to allow for air circulation.  We placed a datalogger
> in the center of one of the boxes of archive materials (in the center
> of the truck) and another outside the boxes to measure the temperature
> of the air in the truck box.  The results were surprising.
>
> We had been informed that the truck would go down to -20 degrees F in
> 4 hours.  Our data loggers showed that it took 10 hours for the air in
> the truck to go from 44 degrees F to -15 degrees F, and the
> temperature inside one of the record boxes took ~96 hours to drop from
> 70 degrees to -15 degrees.  (The boxes had been in a 72 degree
> environment before being placed in the truck box).  It appears that
> the starting temperature of the boxes of paper was more difficult to
> reduce than I expected.  And the truck never achieved the desired
> temperature.
>
> We are very disappointed in these initial results and are trying to
> figure out if there is a different  strategy for using a freezer
> truck, or if this is just not feasible for freezing densely packed
> materials, such as paper packed in a record box.  We are discussing
> packing boxes half full and packing the truck to allow for even more
> air circulation.  But it seems that getting to the goal of -20 degrees
> F in 4 hours may not be feasible.
>
> Does anyone have any positive experiences working with a freezer truck
> for processing a large quantity of materials?  Especially dense
> materials such as wood or boxes of paper?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dana Senge
> Assistant Conservator
> National Park Service
> Intermountain Region Museum Services Program
> Tucson, AZ 85745
> 520-791-6432
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