Jay, You're a little off the mark - inbound email need never be blocked, outbound should only go to/through an ISP remailer to ensure that spamming isn't occurring.
If a customer wants to directly _accept_ email from the net, who cares? They will get spam either way. If they want to sent it out the internet, the ISP has a moral duty to ensure that it's not spam - they are also in the position to immediately cut off that customer for breach of AUP. Dom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dom De Vitto Tel. 07855 805 271 http://www.devitto.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Moore Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 8:05 PM To: Predrag Micakovic Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pf and smtp Predrag Micakovic said: > 1. Changed the rdr rule, did telnet to port 2025 from outside, > redirected to my server to port 25, works fine. Obviously, the ISP is > blocking port 25. Bad ISP. WRONG!... Good ISP - very, very good ISP. > 2. As for outgoing mail, I tried relaying to ISP smtp, works. Again, > ISP does not allow mail to be sent directly. You may not appreciate this yet, but your ISP is doing "the right thing". If all ISP's did as yours did, a significant part of the Internet's spam problem would be solved. > I must say, I do not like relaying to their mail server. I would > prefer to send mail directly. Why do you feel that way? Are you aware that the spam problem has forced many to block _all_ mail coming from dynamic IP addresses - regardless of whether they've ever sent spam or not. Using your ISP's mail server (assuming they are as responsible as they sound) will result in fewer blocked messages for you. Rgds, Jay Moore
