On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 01:05:52PM -0500, the entity calling itself Daniel Staal 
stated:
> 
> May I jump in?  (Donning asbestos suit.  Red, of course, for the 
> season.)

> Given the extreme lengths I've had to keep a couple of (legitimate, 
> small, owner-verified addresses only) mailing lists going when I 
> needed to change ISP's due to a move, I would agree it is a form of 
> punishment.  I'll be changing ISP's again as soon as I can, mostly 
> because of this issue.  I currently have several small domains that 
> cannot send email due to this issue.  And my ISP doesn't even block 
> port 25: I just can't get a static IP address from them.  (Note: I 
> did not have a hand in picking my current ISP.)
> 
> Let's see: I get around 150 spam emails a day.  (Not quite your 500, 
> but it more than equals my non-spam email.)  I use Spamassassin 
> exclusively: it puts in blacklists as a weight, but only *one* weight 
> of many.  If it is the only one that matches the mail gets through to 
> me.  I have had two non-spam emails blocked in the three years I've 
> been running this system.  I have about 3-4 spam emails get through a 
> week.
> 
> I *hate* spam.  That my system will automatically filter and sort 
> (oh, and report too) it is a nessitity:  I would drown in it 
> otherwise.  I admit my system takes some CPU time.  I can see why an 
> ISP would look for a cheaper solution, but most people don't see why 
> their email is not getting through, and I've found myself explaining 
> blocklists 5-6 times a year to non-techies.  It usually takes about 
> three trys before they understand why their email to grandma didn't 
> even bounce.
> 
> Blacklists, used as a sole block, are destructive.  They are history 
> based at best: they don't work on content or current info.  Quite 
> unlike pf, which always works with current info...
> 
> (And I know think we are waaay offtopic for this list.)
> 

Uh - you're off-topic for this thread, not to mention the list... the
original premise was whether or not it's a "good thing" for an ISP to
require its dynamic ip customers to use a fixed-ip relay.

>From what I can tell from your post you use a dynamic ip host to send 
mail, and think SpamAssassin is a better solution than blocking all 
dynamic IPs - different discussion... maybe you oughta' start a new 
thread?

Rgds,
Jay Moore

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