Missing a couple of big differences:

Java is a 3rd generation language, PB a 4th

PB has the datawindow.

These are very big differences.

        Russ

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                All,

                I'm not an expert, only a casual observer taking a cursory
look at this
                issue, but here is my point-of-view:
                1) Java is the future.
                2) Java is nearly identical to PB -- probably because both
are simply higher
                level incarnations of the same language; C/C++.
                3) None of Java's development tools such as the IDE are as
sophisticated as
                PB's but that will come with time assuming demand from the
developers and
                R&D from the vendors.
                4) Java run time is slow but that will improve with tuning
of the language
                and more powerful PCs.
                5) Java is a true multi-platform language.
                6) The PFC could be copied/converted into JAVA and used as a
foundation
                class for JAVA resulting in a minimal learning curve for PB
developers who
                migrate to it.

                Lester LaForce
                Consultant, COMSYS
                U.S. Army, Personnel Information Systems Directorate
                Washington Dc area

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                Our department has approximately 20 programmers. Most of our
projects are
                for
                our company (600 employees) and I'd say that about a third
devleop with
                PowerBuilder (including yours truly), a third with VB and a
third with
                Developer
                . Our database for all our projects is Oracle. We're
starting to think in
                terms
                of internet/intranet. We'd like to move over to using only
one of the above
                tools, and we've arranged a meeting next week to discuss it.
The general
                consensus is:

                1. PowerBuilder is currently the most 'advanced' of the
three.
                2. The learning curve and development time is greater in PB
than the others.
                3. Developer is currently the 'weaker' of the three.
                4. PB is a little behind in all that's involved with the Web

                We're looking for a long-term strategy, and there's where VB
(Microsoft) and
                Developer (Oracle) have the big advantage over PB.

                Any opinions - references to papers written on the subject -
                facts/statistics -
                etc. would be welcome.

                I personally would love to stay with PB - I've been with it
since v3.0 - but
                there's a lot of pressure to dump PB and move over to PB

                Thanks

                David Lerner


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