On Jan14, 2014, at 17:39 , Florian Pflug <f...@phlo.org> wrote: > On Jan14, 2014, at 11:06 , David Rowley <dgrowle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Here's a patch which removes sum(numeric) and changes the documents a little >> to remove a reference to using sum(numeric) to workaround the fact that >> there's no inverse transitions for sum(float). I also made a small change in >> the aggregates.sql tests to check that the aggfnoid <= 9999. > > I've looked over the patch, here a few comments. > > For STRICT pairs of transfer and inverse transfer functions we should > complain if any of them ever return NULL. That can never be correct anyway, > since a STRICT function cannot undo a non-NULL -> NULL transition. > > The same goes for non-STRICT, at least if we ever want to allow an inverse > transfer function to indicate "Sorry, cannot undo in this case, please > rescan". If we allowed NULL as just another state value now, we couldn't > easily undo that later, so we'd rob ourselves of the obvious way for the > inverse transfer function to indicate this condition to its caller. > > The notnullcount machinery seems to apply to both STRICT and non-STRICT > transfer function pairs. Shouldn't that be constrained to STRICT transfer > function pairs? For non-STRICT pairs, it's up to the transfer functions to > deal with NULL inputs however they please, no?

I modified the patch to do this, and ran into a problem. Currently, aggregates with state type "internal" cannot have a strict transfer function, even if they behave like they did, i.e. ignore non-NULL inputs. This is because the only possible initial value for state type "internal" is NULL, and it's up to the transfer function to create the state - usually upon seeing the first non-NULL input. Now, currently that isn't a huge problem - the transfer function simply has to check for NULL input values itself, and if it's indeed conceptually strict, it just returns in this case. With inverse transfer functions, however, each such pair of forward and inverse transfer functions would also need to duplicate the NULL-counting logic from nodeWindowAgg.c if it want's to be conceptually strict, i.e. ignore NULL inputs, but return NULL if there are *only* NULL inputs (or no inputs at all). That seems like a lot of duplicated code in the long run. In essence, what we'd want for strict pairs of forward and inverse transfer functions is for the forward transfer function to be strict in all arguments except the state, and the inverse to be strict according to the usual definition. We can't express that property of the forward transfer function within pg_proc, but we don't really have to - a local hack in nodeWindowAgg.c suffices. So what I'm proposing is: We allow the forward transfer function to be non-strict even if the inverse is strict, but only if the initial value is NULL. In that case we behave as if the forward transfer function was strict, except that upon seeing the first non-NULL input we call it with a NULL state. The return value must still be non-NULL in all cases. Thoughts? best regards, Florian Pflug -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers