On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:30:54AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: >> > OK, I have now applied the conditional display of "Replica Identity" >> > patch (which is how it was originally coded anyway). The attached patch >> > matches Tom's suggestion of displaying the same OID text, just >> > conditionally. >> > >> > Seeing psql \d+ will have a conditional display line in PG 9.4, making >> > OIDs conditional seems to make sense. >> >> Frankly, I think this is all completely wrong-headed. \d+ should >> display *everything*. That's what the + means, isn't it? Coming up >> with complex rules for which things get shown and which things get >> hidden just makes the output harder to understand, without any >> compensating benefit. > > Well, there are lot of _other_ things we could display about the table > that we don't. Are you suggesting we add those too? What about > "Replica Identity"? Should that always display?
In \d+, I think it absolutely should. > The bottom line is we already have complex rules to display only what is > _reasonable_. If you want everything, you have to look at the system > tables. I don't really agree with that. I understand that there's some information (like dependencies) that you can't get through psql because we don't really have a principled idea for what an interface to that would look like, but I don't think that's a good thing. Every time I have to write a query by hand to get some information instead of being able to get it through a backslash command, that slows me down considerably. But I'm lucky in that I actually know enough to do that, which most users don't. Information that you can't get through \d+ just isn't available to a large percentage of our user base without huge effort. We shouldn't be stingy about putting stuff in there that people may need to see. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
