On 05/04/2017 07:04 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Craig Ringer <craig.rin...@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
>> We're carefully maintaining this bizarre cognitive dissonance where we
>> justify the need for using this as a planner hint at the same time as
>> denying that we have a hint. That makes it hard to make progress here.
>> I think there's fear that we're setting some kind of precedent by
>> admitting what we already have.
> I think you're overstating the case.  It's clear that there's a
> significant subset of CTE functionality where there has to be an
> optimization fence.  The initial implementation basically took the
> easy way out by deeming *all* CTEs to be optimization fences.  Maybe
> we shouldn't have documented that behavior, but we did.  Now we're
> arguing about how much of a compatibility break it'd be to change that
> planner behavior.  I don't see any particular cognitive dissonance here,
> just disagreements about the extent to which backwards compatibility is
> more important than better query optimization.


One thought, is that we treat a CTE in a similar way to foreign tables,
with the same set of push downs.


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