Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, Tom, all: > > > No rejiggering is going to get people to complete things they didn't > > complete under the old system. > > It'll help the new people. A lot of people -- if not most -- submitting > their first major patch to PostgreSQL dramatically underestimate the > amount of fix-up that's going to be required, and assume that there won't > be a spec discussion, which there often is. By getting them to submit a > little at a time, *earlier*, we can avoid doing those things at the last > minute.
That is in the developer's FAQ. > Alternately, we can just make sure that first-time patchers have mentors > who check progress well before feature freeze. > > > The plan you list above is what we did > > for this release. > > No, it's not. There's a bunch of patches which we had nothing on -- not > spec, not design draft, not anything -- until we got them on July 20th. > Our current system is to have only one deadline, at which point you're > expected to have 85% of the patch done and up to PostgreSQL standards. > That's quite a bit of "jumping in with both feet" for a newbie. Right. The developer's FAQ says they should follow a process. Making another process doesn't mean they will follow that either. > > > I did try to get us additional help in reviewing. Neil was unavailable, > > and Alvaro could only give part of his time > > Asking two people is not exactly an all-out effort to get reviewers. Well, not sure what else I can do. Those are the people who used to help out a lot. > > It strikes me that setting feature freeze in midsummer might not be the > > best strategy for having manpower available to review --- people tend to > > be on vacation in August. Maybe the answer is just to move the dates a > > bit one way or the other. > > We've discussed that issue before, yes. Since we're proposing a new > roadmap process for 8.3, and will likely be dealing with a lot of major > patches, maybe that's the release to delay? Moving it away from summer might help, yea. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
