On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, FAST PostgreSQL wrote:

#log_output_type = 'text' #Valid values are 'SQL' or 'text'
Defaults to 'text' which is status quo. If it is set to 'SQL' log will be output as INSERT commands.

This assumes someone wants either the INSERT-able logs or the current, easily readable ones. I know I don't want either--I want both. There are times I want to look through the logs with a text editor, there are times where I want to query against them.

I would suggest treating this similarly to how the Windows eventlog is handled: made SQL INSERT format another option available to log_destination, so it can be combined with the existing formats. In addition to the syslog concerns you already mentioned (which are themselves a showstopper for using this feature in companies that rely on or aggregate syslogs), I know I'd want to keep the existing logs rolling in parallel while I tested out the SQL-based version for a while, before cutting over to exclusively INSERT format logs.

I've thought a bit about how to implement this TODO already (I have a log file parser and I hate maintaining it), and the only thing that made sense to me was giving a new parameter with the filename to output to in this format. For example, make a new log_sql_filename with the same syntax already used for log_filename. There will probably need to be a second parameter for the table name to insert into as you've already commented on. And like Joshua has already suggested, the main useful applications for this feature I've thought of all involve reading from the INSERT-able logs in real-time, using something like "tail -f", and pumping that data immediately into a logger table.

Also, I feel that supporting the whole log_line_prefix syntax for this feature is not just overkill, it's a bad idea. Output everything in a standard, complete format instead, and then it becomes easy for the community at large to build tools on top of that to analyze the log database entries instead of having so many ad-hoc approaches. You want a subset, use a view or copy just the fields you want into another table. I would guess this simplifies the patch as well.

* Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD

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