...and on Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:09:16AM -0700, Josh Berkus used the keyboard:
> Does it work, though?   Without Oracle admin tools?

Hello, Josh. :)

Well, as I said, that's why I was asking - I'm willing to give it a go
if nobody can prove me wrong. :)

> > Now, if both goals can be achieved in one go, hell, I'm willing to try
> > it out myself in an attempt to extract off of it, some performance
> > indicators that could be compared to other database performance tests
> > sent to both this and the PERFORM mailing list.
> Hey, any test you wanna run is fine with us.    I'm pretty sure that OCFS 
> belongs to Oracle, though, patent & copyright, so we couldn't actually use it 
> in practice.

I thought you knew - OCFS, OCFS-Tools and OCFSv2 have not only been open-
source for quite a while now - they're released under the GPL.


I don't know what that means to you (probably nothing good, as PostgreSQL
is released under the BSD license), but it most definitely can be considered
a good thing for the end user, as she can download it, compile, and set it
up on her disks, without the need to pay Oracle royalties. :)

> If your intention in this test is to show the superiority of raw devices, let 
> me give you a reality check: barring some major corporate backing getting 
> involved, we can't possibly implement our own PG-FS for database support.  We 
> already have a TODO list which is far too long for our developer pool, and 
> implementing a custom FS either takes a large team (OCFS) or several years of 
> development (Reiser).   

Not really - I was just thinking about something not-entirely-a-filesystem
and POK!, OCFS sprang to mind. It omits many POSIX features that slow down
a traditional filesystem, yet it does know the concept of inodes and most
of all, it's _really_ heavy on caching. As such, it sounded quite promising
to me, but trial, I think, is the best test.

The question does spring up though, that Steve raised in another post - just
for the record, what POSIX semantics can a postmaster live without in a

    Grega Bremec
    Senior Administrator
    Noviforum Ltd., Software & Media

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