On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:43 AM, kilon <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I really like the idea of roadmap. In an open source project people are free
>> to work in anything they like , even bring new nice features of their design
>> as long as they don't disturb the existing code. 
>> 
>> But the same people, including me, or even mere users , wonder where the
>> software is heading. Even an exploration ship , that sets to explore new
>> areas has goals. I would like to see in the pharo website a roadmap not just
>> for 3 but even for pharo 4. I know that Stephane has given a presentation
>> about pharo 3 roadmap , maybe you could link those slides. 
> 
> the problem with this is that we do not have a clear roadmap for Pharo4 (yet).
> How it works now is: at the beginning of a year iteration we make a list of 
> what we want, taking into account what emerged latest year (both new 
> possibilities opened and new/old problems that emerged). 
> 
> That gives us what we can more or less call a "next release road map". And is 
> "more or less" because situation can change. For example we wanted a complete 
> revamp of Pharo3 L&F, and we wanted also a complete migration of Morph to be 
> rendered with Athens, and reality showed that is not achievable this year... 
> so it will wait until next one (and that does not  means at all that we 
> stopped work on that area, just that the completion of the task will take 
> more time than expected). 
> So... what's the roadmap for Pharo4? No Idea :)
> What we already know is that we made a huge move forward in infrastructure 
> for Pharo3 (starting by Opal, but not restrained to that), and now we want to 
> focus in the tools (but without doing *just* that, because there are lots of 
> tasks to do in kernel, modularization, cleanups, etc.)
> 
> in general, for pharo there is a vision document that shows the long (really 
> long) term goals. Now I do not remember where is it, but should be somewhere 
> in the pharo site (probably not visible enough). 
> 
The problem is that I think we already did a lot of that vision. We need a new 
one.


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