A good place to run Pharo for IoT would be on an ARM-based Synology box.

That would be a killer niche.

Phil




On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Clement,
>
> 2014-06-19 12:52 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <[email protected]>:
> > 2014-06-18 15:39 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <[email protected]>:
>
> >> Can you share what is the intended use of the android vm that you're
> >> building?
>
> > - Deploying application on Android
> > - Proving to big customers Pharo can run on ARM processor on the
> contrary to
> > several other smalltalks
>
> What kind of applications? Is there an business interest of running on
> ARM processors? Is there a sale advantage of having this? I don't want
> to sound too inquisitive nor pedantic, those are real questions.
>
> As stated in previous mails, running on the platform is a technical
> challenge per se (I couldn't make it if I wanted), but it's just a
> very small part of "deploying to Android". And I'm not talking about
> app stores.
>
> Even though Android (AOSP) is Linux based, the memory/battery
> constraints makes that apps or services lifecycle  completely
> different to regular unix processes. And I don't see how this fits
> into the whole android environment. Last time I tried (+1yr) it the VM
> was a permanent process, without access to device sensors, etc.[*]
>
> I have a genuine interest in this topic, because my company depends
> both on Pharo and Android (native) software.
>
> But how I see this, the advantage of Pharo running on Android for
> devices other than phones/tablets, more kind of "internet of things"
> devices. The advantage is also that the image is an asset of the vm,
> so you can update your app without having to reinstall it through the
> platform app management.
>
> Please don't let this stop you guys from doing this VM even for the
> fun/sake of doing it.
> But as you are making this public, I feel allowed to ask questions and
> add comments. You can simply ignore them. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Esteban A. Maringolo
>
> [*] Several years ago I took a private course of "mobile squeak", and
> even compiled a modified squeak VM for WinCE, running MVC based UIs.
> Back then Squeak UI was way better than WinCE's, even for "business
> apps". Now I think mobile expectations changed.
>
>

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