On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:45, Norbert Hartl <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Am 28.07.2014 um 11:41 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:
> 
>> 
>> On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:36, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:15, Henrik Johansen <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 21 Jul 2014, at 3:34 , Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Jul 2014, at 09:44, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21/7/14 08:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>>> DALI
>>>>>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> VOYAGE
>>>>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~estebanlm/Voyage
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not know if there are back ends for something else than mongo in 
>>>>>> Voyage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> certainly not for GOODS :)
>>>>> actually we have just “in memory” and “mongo” (in memory works fine when 
>>>>> deploying on gemstone, for example)
>>>>> I always want to add more backends but well… time, time, time… 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Esteban
>>>> 
>>>> I’m intending to add one for Riak, in an unspecified amount of time, 
>>>> depending on my other workload…
>>>> I’d like it performant, and use a client up to date with the latest Riak 
>>>> API, which (afaict) means using the ProtoBuffer protocol, which means 
>>>> having to implementing PB first.
>> 
>> It would be good to have a ProtoBuffers implementation that is separate.
>> The same goes for the BSON implementation hidden in StHub. 
>> 
> The BSON code should be loadable without MongoTalk. It is separate packages. 
> Or do you mean a separate repository would be better?

With separate I mean: being managed, documented, advertised, tested and used as 
such, it is more a mindset than how this is exactly done. Someone needs it for 
something new, point them to the right place and they are off. Protocols are 
(should be) ideal building blocks. But it _is_ more work than having it as a 
local subpart of some larger project.

> IMHO it would be sufficient to find it but smalltalkhub isn't helpful in this 
> respect.
> 
> Norbert
>  
>>>> The progress so far is I got the PB serializer almost done (sidetracked by 
>>>> wanting an NB-based UTF8 converter to make it more performant), but I 
>>>> haven’t started the PB message parser yet, nor the actual Riak backend.
>>> 
>>> I was intending to add Riak support too :)
>>> Do you want access to the repo, so we keep all together? (and then I can 
>>> check and maybe collaborate)
>>> and btw, are you using/checking Phriak?
>>> 
>>> Esteban
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Henry


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