I'd say that we now have:

Camillo - pissed off to death
Ben - same
Nico - gone

There is something amiss there.

These people are significant contributors and made the system move forward
in new and much needed directions (Zeroconf/CommandLine, Spec, Amber).

Pissing them off is really a bad approach, no matter why/how/... Get the
house in order please and stop the ego trips. Yelling at people/each other
just doesn't work and doesn't help. Try that at your cat.

Oh, yeah, it helps in pushing great people to other communities... As we
needed that.

And now, I am feeling sad.

Phil

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> Thanks for letting us know.
>
> I am sorry you feel this way, but I believe your presentation of the
> situation is both unfair and unfortunate. You are obviously referring to
> issues that are of personal nature, and as outsiders we are left with only
> an ugly feeling without being able to either understand or fix anything.
>
> I was actually having fun until your email, and as far as I can tell,
> others were having fun as well. I am not sure what the intention of your
> email was, but at least for me, your mail did manage to spoil the fun for a
> second.
>
> I appreciate the work you put in Pharo, I respect your decision, but I do
> not sympathize with your behavior.
>
> Good luck,
> Doru
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Benjamin <
> benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> I am sending this email to explain why I am quiting the Pharo community,
>> as well as the Smalltalk community.
>>
>> I can not bear Stephane Ducasse's behavior anymore whether at a public
>> level or a private level.
>>
>> It seems that his ego is preventing him from being able to have a
>> discussion
>> without overreacting, being agressive, or insulting.
>>
>> I can not approve how Stephane is constantly talking behind my back to
>> unleash
>> his irrationnal wrath and to provide his very own version of the facts.
>>
>> I can not see how this can lead to a peaceful and respectful community
>> where we can all have fun building a future.
>>
>> Therefore I will not be part of this project anymore, since the way
>> Stephane
>> is acting is taking away all the fun I can have interacting with all of
>> you.
>>
>> It was a hard decision to take, but I can not be part of a community led
>> by someone whose behaviour is going against all my principles.
>>
>> I wish to all of you to have fun, and keep me in touch
>> if you want to have a beer someday ;)
>>
>> Ben
>>
>
>
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "Every thing has its own flow"
>

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