Well my problem was that I was caught by suprise, I saw workspace disappear and suddenly I see a new tool that looks and behaves very diffirently and me not able to do even the most basic stuff I was doing with workspace. I now looking throught your links and I understand now that this is no workspace , its a completely diffirent tool , pretty advanced and very powerful and has some very good ideas in like as you said each object defining its own tabs and representations etc. If playground is to really replace workspace then you need to add an "easy mode" something that people will be able to use without having to read 10 links to understand the potential just for basic functionality. Most likely you already considering doing this.
Alexander and Esteban want to play the game of "you having a wrong mindset to figure this out because you are used to other sfuff" but its a game they lost the moment I started coding for Pharo . Actually Alexander's "authors experiment" theory falls on its face when you consider that most people using Pharo if not all, are quite experienced coders and yet they chose to use something that turns coding on its head. On the other this ridiculous assumption seem kinda funny when you bring to your mind the popular quote "I am too old for this shit" of Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon. But apparently even he was not "too old for this shit". The important thing is to hear all opinions, finding out why people complain and do not assume that the absence of complaining implies approval. Only voiced approval is approval. I think Playground looks very promising from what I read from these links and thank you for taking the time explaining some of the concepts to me and of course providing documentation. Yes I do still think that the GUI can become more "begineer friendly" I already offered my suggestions , I am sure others will jump in with more suggestions. Its definitely a tool I will try it more thoroughly. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > It is precisely those points that are not so obvious that are important to > discover. That is why your feedback is important. Please keep the questions > and suggestions coming. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:00 AM, kilon alios <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks I will read those and try it in practise this way it will be >> easier to me to connect the dots. I was not aware of them, maybe add them >> to a chapter to Pharo for the Enterprise to make them more visible , they >> will also need to be added to PBE for beginners because many things about >> this tool are not obvious. Still a long way till Pharo 4 is release so you >> have plenty of time to polish things up. >> >> >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >
