> On 16 Mar 2015, at 10:38, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > 2015-03-16 10:00 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>: > I *really* do not understand why people make such a fuss about this. > > it is not about me, I can live with that. > What I don't want are extensive discussion after the release: "Why did you > remove the Workspace"
I know. It is like someone said before: if we don't have anything new, why release a new version at all ? > If you open a Playground and never do 'Do it and go', but instead keep on > using 'Do it' and 'Inspect it', the second pane never opens and there is > hardly any difference. You can keep using it as a notebook. > > But you do get the much nicer 'Print it' and so many other things. > > It took me some getting used to as well, but now I hardly notice the > difference. > > > On 16 Mar 2015, at 08:31, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Why sorry? > > > > Doru > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Norbert Hartl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 15.03.2015 um 22:35 schrieb stepharo <[email protected]>: > > > >> > >>> That is great. And you even have a solution for your problem. Both of > >>> these will remain in the image for Pharo 4, so that solution will work. > >>> > >>> However, the menu is also the entry point for newcomers. We should not > >>> bombard them with choices that distract them from their goal of > >>> experiencing Pharo. > >> > >> Yes so please fix the tab label :) > > > > +1 (sorry, Doru :) ) > > > > > >> > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Doru > >>> > >>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:20 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> My usage pattern is not that. > >>> > >>> I have GTPlayground disabled in the settings and GTInspector enabled > >>> (Pharo3 here). > >>> > >>> And I've made a keybinding to open the playground. > >>> And use Alt-o Alt-w for getting a workspace. > >>> > >>> So, I do use both. And not "one or the other". > >>> > >>> Phil > >>> > >>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > Hi, > >>> > > >>> > The Workspace is in the image. The only discussion is about the title > >>> > of the > >>> > menu item. > >>> > > >>> > When the Playground is enabled, the menu should show Playground instead > >>> > of > >>> > Workspace. And when the Workspace is enabled, it should show Workspace. > >>> > The > >>> > slice in this direction is on my to do list. > >>> > > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > Doru > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:52 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> > Although it is difficult to find a agreement for this, I suggest > >>> >> > to add a menu entry "Playground" and reuse the entry "Workspace" for > >>> >> > the old workspace. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Soon we will have a new Pharo release. And I am afraid there will be > >>> >> > some > >>> >> > complaining > >>> >> > like this: > >>> >> > (Only on Workspace menu item that opens GTPlayground) > >>> >> > -> "Hey where is my workspace?" > >>> >> > > >>> >> > But instead I would like a > >>> >> > Workspace menu item opens Workspace / Playground opens GTPlayground: > >>> >> > and the feedback: > >>> >> > -> "Hey, GTPlayground is so cool" > >>> >> > > >>> >> > what do you think? > >>> >> > >>> >> I think that this is the way I want things to be in Pharo4. > >>> >> > >>> >> If we get the Playground only, I want a way to get the workspace as a > >>> >> loadable configuration. > >>> >> > >>> >> Phil > >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > nicolai > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > www.tudorgirba.com > >>> > > >>> > "Every thing has its own flow" > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>> > >>> "Every thing has its own flow" > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > >
