Namespaces – please.

 

Best, Christian

 

Von: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] Im Auftrag von Henrik 
Nergaard
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2016 14:24
An: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] I will rename FFI-NB to UnifiedFFI

 

If the prefix is renamed would it be possible to include a delimiter symbol 
between whatever prefix name and the object name? (for example underscore). 
Then one could change the how a class is viewed in a simple manner (see 
attached example).

 

 

Best regards,

Henrik

 

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Esteban 
Lorenzano
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] I will rename FFI-NB to UnifiedFFI

 

So, recapitulation: 

 

I want to introduce:

 

1) package renaming, from FFI-NB to UnifiedFFI

2) prefix renaming, from FFI to UFFI (I will not change method prefix, they 
will remain ffi* so this is maybe a problem…)

3) method renaming, from ffiLibraryName to ffiLibrary (we didn’t talk about 
this, but I’m introducing it because is better name :P)

 

I *think* #2 can be skipped, but #1 and #3 are a must. 

 

opinions?

 

Esteban

 

On 13 Jan 2016, at 11:28, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com 
<mailto:esteba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 


On 13 Jan 2016, at 03:46, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com 
<mailto:b...@openinworld.com> > wrote:



Le 12/1/16 17:58, Denis Kudriashov a écrit :

Hi

UFFI reminds me UFO which can be translated like Unified Foreign Objects.
And objects outside image look really like unidentified flying objects. It's 
just address, blob of bytes and they fly outside smalltalk world
And it has some relation to Alien name.
But maybe it is too much funny name


I guess we are considering...

Prefix: UFO   (shorter)
Package: Unified Foreign Objects    (longer)

Prefix: UFFI   (longer)
Package: UnifiedFFI    (shorter)

I like your thinking, but I have mixed feelings.  Name is cool.  The
shorter prefix may be a benefit (though the "I" doesn't add much).
But it implies more semantics as an external "object" than external
blobs of memory (for example) for C libraries.
I like "Unified" because it brings together parts of several
implementations (if I understand correctly) and fixes a point of
divergence at the VM level making it harder for limited resources to
collaborate there.
So in the end I think I prefer Unified.


yes, I suppose you are right. 
but I was not considering changing prefix from FFI to UFFI, just repackaging as 
UnifiedFFI :P

now… probably I will do it (not many changes to adapt and probably better for 
understanding in the long way). 




cheers -ben

P.S.  As I understand it, NativeBoost performs a bit better than
UnifiedFFI, but it hindered cross-architecture compatibility - but
UnifiedFFI essentially keeps the NativeBoost syntax - so I wonder if
its technically feasible for NativeBoost to become a plug-in backend
for UnifiedFFI, that could be used is special circumstances that
super-performance is required only on supported platforms?


actually (though I do not test it since a couple of months) it should be more 
or less compatible… it was at the beginning, then I made some changes…
what is not compatible anymore is the vm who needs to be changed to use 
executable memory. 

Also… yes, NativeBoost is faster (callouts, not callbacks) because you cannot 
compete with ASM, but you can compite in activation time and optimised code… so 
who knows, in the future that advantage can not exist anymore. 

cheers,
Esteban









2016-01-12 16:55 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com 
<mailto:esteba...@gmail.com> >:


Hi,

People has pointed (and they are right) that the name of the new FFI
front-end is misleading.
So yesterday I was talking with Stef and we think UnifiedFFI (or UFFI, for
short) is a better name… and to keep packages prox. to regular FFI I was
thinking on rename FFI-NB packages to FFI-Unified… but maybe is better just
to rename them as UFFI or UnifiedFFI…
what do you think?

Esteban

 

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