I think that 300 years of enslavement by the Ottoman Empire gave us (as a nation) a pretty good idea , plus the Great Fire of Smyrna, plus Nazi occupation etc. You assume too much. I was talking about Pharo by the way, not politics.
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM Hernán Morales Durand < [email protected]> wrote: > 2017-04-21 5:10 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]>: > >> Resistance is futile >> >> You know what amazes me about this discussion ? >> >> The one thing that I find amazing is that we have like 58 messages >> already , many of them complain about the dark theme and not one even >> bothered posting a single screenshot demonstration all these "problems" , >> just one . How hard it is to trigger a shortcut to capture an image so we >> who love the dark theme can see why some people find it hard to use. >> >> And this is why I feel lucky that the deed is done and this is no >> democracy.... very happy indeed :) >> >> > You don't have ANY idea of how is to live without democracy. > > Cheers, > > Hernán > > > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:48 PM Ben Coman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I see in 60467 that the deed is done. Okay, so moving forward... be >>> prepared ;) for a surge of feedback as a bunch of us >>> dark-theme-newbies start using it in earnest. I understand those that >>> been using it a while already are obviously happy with how its tuned, >>> and probably not many things can be accommodated, but there is one >>> thing... >>> >>> Maybe its that its 1AM, or its my astigmatism, but my first impression >>> was a shock at the high contrast pure-white-on-black text - for the >>> World Menu and System Browser - to the degree that my eyes felt >>> crosseyed. Particularly the title-bar-text was jarring. Dimming it >>> slightly made it *much* easier to focus. Could >>> dark-theme-connoisseurs try this out... >>> >>> Pharo3DarkTheme>>textColor >>> ^ Color veryLightGray lighter >>> >>> >>> And wow! That very bright green in TestRunner hurts. >>> >>> >>> Other than that, so far it looks cool. >>> >>> cheers -ben >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Stephane Ducasse >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > For the mooc we have normally an image: it is called Pharo 50. >>> > >>> > S. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > --001a113a8620c74f7a054d5aba55 >>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >> > >>> >> > Not before IMMEDIATELY realizing that all screenshots containing the >>> >> > white >>> >> > theme are outdated and will IMMEDIATELY prefer the dark ones that >>> will >>> >> > have >>> >> > an updated view of the Pharo GUI compared to a screenshot that has >>> the >>> >> > white theme and it's outdated by two or more years. >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> No they will think it is for a different environment and waste time >>> >> looking for a match. >>> >> >>> >> A beginner won't see that just that they cannot get the same answer as >>> >> the mooc or documentation. >>> >> >>> >> They will look for a language where the documentation matches what >>> they >>> >> get as they don't know if the documentation or their code is wrong. >>> (and >>> >> probably cast aspersions on the quality of what they are using) >>> >> >>> >> > Updating the screenshots for PBE5 was a big pain and I am sure >>> there are >>> >> > ones that are left that are still outdated showing 1.4 , which is at >>> >> > least >>> >> > 6 years old. >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Mark >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>>
