Then more respect for the word, because many people gave their life for it.
2017-04-21 7:52 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>: > in fact, Greece had a pretty hard dictatorship from '67 to '74 > > On 21 Apr 2017, at 12:40, Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think that 300 years of enslavement by the Ottoman Empire gave us (as a > nation) a pretty good idea , plus the Great Fire of Smyrna, plus Nazi > occupation etc. You assume too much. I was talking about Pharo by the way, > not politics. > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM Hernán Morales Durand < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> 2017-04-21 5:10 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]>: >> >>> Resistance is futile >>> >>> You know what amazes me about this discussion ? >>> >>> The one thing that I find amazing is that we have like 58 messages >>> already , many of them complain about the dark theme and not one even >>> bothered posting a single screenshot demonstration all these "problems" , >>> just one . How hard it is to trigger a shortcut to capture an image so we >>> who love the dark theme can see why some people find it hard to use. >>> >>> And this is why I feel lucky that the deed is done and this is no >>> democracy.... very happy indeed :) >>> >>> >> You don't have ANY idea of how is to live without democracy. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hernán >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:48 PM Ben Coman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I see in 60467 that the deed is done. Okay, so moving forward... be >>>> prepared ;) for a surge of feedback as a bunch of us >>>> dark-theme-newbies start using it in earnest. I understand those that >>>> been using it a while already are obviously happy with how its tuned, >>>> and probably not many things can be accommodated, but there is one >>>> thing... >>>> >>>> Maybe its that its 1AM, or its my astigmatism, but my first impression >>>> was a shock at the high contrast pure-white-on-black text - for the >>>> World Menu and System Browser - to the degree that my eyes felt >>>> crosseyed. Particularly the title-bar-text was jarring. Dimming it >>>> slightly made it *much* easier to focus. Could >>>> dark-theme-connoisseurs try this out... >>>> >>>> Pharo3DarkTheme>>textColor >>>> ^ Color veryLightGray lighter >>>> >>>> >>>> And wow! That very bright green in TestRunner hurts. >>>> >>>> >>>> Other than that, so far it looks cool. >>>> >>>> cheers -ben >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Stephane Ducasse >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > For the mooc we have normally an image: it is called Pharo 50. >>>> > >>>> > S. >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> > --001a113a8620c74f7a054d5aba55 >>>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Not before IMMEDIATELY realizing that all screenshots containing >>>> the >>>> >> > white >>>> >> > theme are outdated and will IMMEDIATELY prefer the dark ones that >>>> will >>>> >> > have >>>> >> > an updated view of the Pharo GUI compared to a screenshot that has >>>> the >>>> >> > white theme and it's outdated by two or more years. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> No they will think it is for a different environment and waste time >>>> >> looking for a match. >>>> >> >>>> >> A beginner won't see that just that they cannot get the same answer >>>> as >>>> >> the mooc or documentation. >>>> >> >>>> >> They will look for a language where the documentation matches what >>>> they >>>> >> get as they don't know if the documentation or their code is wrong. >>>> (and >>>> >> probably cast aspersions on the quality of what they are using) >>>> >> >>>> >> > Updating the screenshots for PBE5 was a big pain and I am sure >>>> there are >>>> >> > ones that are left that are still outdated showing 1.4 , which is >>>> at >>>> >> > least >>>> >> > 6 years old. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Mark >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >
