Raffaello writes:
> > > If I understand the proposal correctly, something similar was
> > > tried in project Lively Kernel (https://www.lively-kernel.org/),
> > > which is dead since long...
> >
> > That project is alive, actually.
>
> The last news and copyright notices are from 2012, the last release is
> from February 2014, the last mailing list entry is from August 2016
> and its gzipped volume in the last year is less than 5 KB.
>
> Would anybody honestly call such a project "alive"?
As long as there are people using it, then yes, it's alive. I would
say the best indication of activity is the HPI Lively Kernel page[1],
and its associated wiki, which has content from 2017.
You might also be interested in the consulting work done for
Daimler with Lively, and other real-world projects described in the
paper "A World of Active Objects for Work and Play: The First Ten Years
of Lively", by Ingalls et al[2].
For me, the most relevant example of Lively's real-world impact is
Bert Freudenberg's use of it to create SqueakJS. You can read about that
in the paper "SqueakJS - A Modern and Practical Smalltalk That Runs in
Any Browser"[3]. I'm using SqueakJS now to create in-browser JavaScript
IDEs (for livecoding JS front-end frameworks like React), and
distributed systems that federate native apps with web browsers across
multiple machines.
Stéphane writes:
> ...is [SqueakJS] a browser plugin?
No, it's a JS framework written in normal JavaScript, loadable by
any HTML page via a <script> tag. One could package it as a web browser
extension, though (or a node.js package, etc.).
You can get all the details, and try it out, at [4].
thanks,
-C
[1] https://tinyurl.com/l3uxuzp (hpi.uni-potsdam.de)
[2] https://tinyurl.com/lad3mqw (hpi.uni-potsdam.de)
[3] https://tinyurl.com/lnwhbov (hpi.uni-potsdam.de)
[4] https://squeak.js.org
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