2017-10-04 9:50 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com>:

> if the compiler plugin correctly models such special syntax with special
> AST nodes, that could be even possible without much effort
>

Interesting. Would that imply that by having those special ast nodes, we
would get the decompilation working for the debugger?

Thierry




>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2017-10-03 17:39 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> While idea looks cool it will require a lot of tool support. Senders,
>>> var/class references, rename refactorings should be aware of it
>>>
>>
>> And I forgot debugger. It should be possible to step over "interpolated
>> expressions"
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2017-10-03 17:29 GMT+02:00 Damien Pollet <damien.pol...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 3 October 2017 at 14:07, Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why not having an opal plugin?
>>>>>
>>>>> The opal plugin may read strings in the form:
>>>>>
>>>>> "lalala {some expression} lololo"
>>>>>
>>>>> and replace at compile time that by:
>>>>>
>>>>> "lalala {1} lololo" format { some expression }
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we're going to extend the compiler, we might as avoid parsing at
>>>> runtime by desugaring more like:
>>>>
>>>> String streamContents: [:str |
>>>>     str
>>>>         nextPutAll: 'lalala ';
>>>>         nextPutAll: (some expression) printString;
>>>>         nextPutAll: ' lololo' ]
>>>>
>>>> The thing to think about is what is the delimiter for {some expression}.
>>>>>  - a too used one may break lots of existing code.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> …or we could change the string quotes to mean "dynamic string in which
>>>> interpolations can be used" and keep single quotes for literal strings 
>>>> only.
>>>>
>>>>  - and we should escape it
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> indeed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:40 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 29 Sep 2017, at 08:54, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This solution will not work for environments without sources too
>>>>>> where names like t1, t2 are used for temporary variables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I often wonder why we can't keep at least the variables names, it
>>>>>> would not be that expensive. There was this problem with FFI that needed
>>>>>> source code access as well. It would also help the debugger and make the
>>>>>> decompiler more powerful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Anyway, nice idea.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -- Pavel
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dne čtvrtek 28. září 2017 Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>
>>>>>> napsal(a):
>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I got into a little office discussion about string interpolation as
>>>>>> it is done in different programming languages.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In Pharo we have String>>#format: which is pretty nice. It works as
>>>>>> follows:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > | x y |
>>>>>> > x := 123.
>>>>>> > y := #foo.
>>>>>> > 'x={1} and y={2}' format: { x. y }.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It is also possible to use a dictionary with keys, like this:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > | x y |
>>>>>> > x := 123.
>>>>>> > y := #foo.
>>>>>> > 'x={x} and y={y}' format: { #x->x. #y->y } asDictionary.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > But this is not true string interpolation as described in [
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interpolation ]. The idea is to
>>>>>> write the value generating expressions directly inside the strings.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Since in Pharo we add features not by extending the syntax but by
>>>>>> adding messages I wondered if it could be done for string interpolation.
>>>>>> The goal is to make the following work:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > | x y |
>>>>>> > x := 123.
>>>>>> > y := #foo.
>>>>>> > 'It seems x equals {x} and y equals {y} while Pi is still {Float
>>>>>> pi}' interpolate.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  => 'It seems x equals 123 and y equals foo while Pi is still
>>>>>> 3.141592653589793'
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Here is the implementation I came up with:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > String>>#interpolate
>>>>>> >   "Format the receiver by interpolating the evaluation of
>>>>>> expressions
>>>>>> >   in between curly brackets in the context of the sender as in the
>>>>>> following 3 oneline examples.
>>>>>> >   'Today is {Date today}' interpolate.
>>>>>> >   | x | x := 123. 'x equals {x} and pi equals {Float pi}'
>>>>>> interpolate.
>>>>>> >   'In {#strings} you can escape \{ by prefixing it with \\'
>>>>>> interpolate."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >   | senderContext |
>>>>>> >   senderContext := thisContext sender.
>>>>>> >   ^ self class new: self size streamContents: [ :out | | stream |
>>>>>> >       stream := self readStream.
>>>>>> >       [ stream atEnd ] whileFalse: [ | currentChar |
>>>>>> >         (currentChar := stream next) == ${
>>>>>> >           ifTrue: [ | expression result |
>>>>>> >             expression := stream upTo: $}.
>>>>>> >             result := Compiler new
>>>>>> >               evaluate: expression in: senderContext to: nil
>>>>>> notifying: nil ifFail: [ ^ nil ] logged: false.
>>>>>> >             out nextPutAll: result asString ]
>>>>>> >           ifFalse: [
>>>>>> >             currentChar == $\
>>>>>> >               ifTrue: [ stream atEnd ifFalse: [ out nextPut: stream
>>>>>> next ] ]
>>>>>> >               ifFalse: [ out nextPut: currentChar ] ] ] ]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It is a hack that could certainly be improved. And there is of
>>>>>> course an obvious security problem.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thoughts ?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sven
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Guille Polito
>>>>>
>>>>> Research Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
>>>>>
>>>>> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
>>>>>
>>>>> French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
>>>>> <http://www.cnrs.fr>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Damien Pollet
>>>> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Guille Polito
>
> Research Engineer
>
> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
>
> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
>
> French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
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>
>
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