Hi Stéphane,

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 5:00 AM, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi eliot
> 
> Why do you attack me personally on this?


I am /not/ attacking you personally.  I am criticizing the architecture.  It is 
complex and fragile and it is already affecting the vm.

> I paid with my team money the salary of clement to work with you and I
> never said a word on the direction.
> So I would appreciate that you respect me. Thanks in advance for your
> understanding.

What are you talking about?  I have spent my own personal money on this 
collaboration also.  What does my having spent money here have anything that 
bro with it?  Are you saying that the Pharo community have got no benefit from 
the vm?

> 
> Personally I would like to have a Pharo VM that does not crash when I
> type because of keybinding and freetype.
> And many more usability concerns.

That is not my fault.  You paid John McIntosh to write the iOS code.  And 
that's where the bug lies.  It is not my responsibility that fix it.

> 
> I will not reply to this thread anymore because I do not like to be insulted.

I am not insulting you.  Stop taking things personally and address the subject, 
which is Monticello/got integration and not your feelings.  Grow up and lead 
your community. Stop acting like a child.  You persistently take things 
personally and it makes having a technical discussion very very difficult.  Not 
to mention trying to mend relationships as I've tried between you and Right 
Bert Hirschfeld and others who find your petulance unacceptable.

Monticello/git integration is a very very important topic.  The same chess 
ofvyhr Pharo project hinges on it bring done right.  That means subjective by 
it to criticism.  If you want this to succeed you will separate your personal 
final feelings from the topic and bring my your considerable intelligence to 
bear on the subject.
 
> Stef
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 5:22 AM, Eliot Miranda <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Stephane,
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:26 AM, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi torsten
>>> 
>>> we have a super long list of *important* fixes and enhancements to do.
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't it important to preserve the ability to exchange code between Pharo,
>> Squeak and Cuis?  Don't you care that the VM development is directly
>> affected by this?  Is the VM and plugin support not important to Pharo?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Stef
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Torsten Bergmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Not having timestamps/authors in Pharo 7 due to git and missing blame
>>>> support
>>>> (see [1]) has other bad side effects:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - it clobbers all method stamps in an MCZ package [1] if you use
>>>> Monticello
>>>>   which can lead easily to trouble/lamenting
>>>> 
>>>> - it is not possible to fileout a changeset [2] in the ChangeSorter
>>>> 
>>>> Was there any further discussion/decision for P7 on solving this
>>>> or adding blame support?
>>>> 
>>>> Thx
>>>> T.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://forum.world.st/Author-name-in-version-Iceberg-td4968472.html
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2018-January/026350.html
>>>> [3] https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20951/
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>> best, Eliot
> 

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