On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Cédrick Béler <cdric...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Little feedback too.
>
> I was surprised by the new download as some students had to install on
> windows… hopefully, I had old win versions but it has disturbed me :)
> Still handy and straightforward to just put an image on the VM.
>
> But…this being said, I just tried on Mac and this works nicely and this is
> true that launcher makes the management of image clearer and easier..
> I don’t know about windows but I have to care about as 98% of students
> uses Pharo on windows...
>
> I was thinking of some adjustments:
> 1) maybe a default/advanced mode on the launcher to show only, as default,
>  Mooc/PBE5/Official distributions.
>


did you see that the Launcher already includes this?
There is a Pharo Mooc item.



> 2)  a proper icon name to display in OS’s task bars.
> When several image are opened, they should have different icons, at least
> different name when hovering, and not only Pharo.
>

The PharoLauncher should be named Pharo Launcher :).
Now we should get a nice icon.


>
> A more general feedback is about *cloud drive OS’s* (iCloud Drive,
> Dropbox, …).
> I have 3 mac’s (pro and personal). I put often files in a directory that
> are synchronized across these devices.
> - sometimes I get a message that an image are in different states
> - sync image might be long (+changes) depending on network conditions
>
> I think the question is important as the launcher download in the Document
> folder (OSX) and this directory is synchronized by default.
> What do you think about such common situation ? What are your common
> practices ?
> - lets says on two Macs and works on both
> - or I use a dropbox folder
>
> => cloud drive are cool and my impression is that we could take a better
> advantage of them for data that could be shared between (personal) images
> (Play-Cache ? Packages-cache ? … )
> ==> would it be possible to have several files for one image (chunked over
> time so only the last chunk is modified and then less file would be
> synchronized) - (I don’t know at all if possible) ?
> ==> same for changes… but this one should be easier I think.
>
> => I also find longer to share pharo system the old ways - zipping (or
> not) via USB - I think git integration produces a large number of files
> that relies slows down system copy paste (if only image this is ok)…
>
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Cédrick
>
> PS: my experiments to make students use Pharo are very cool… I need to
> adjust my presentations/lecture but already I think I succeeded in getting
> more attraction (and potential results) than what I tried last year with
> whatever technologies (Python especially). I still use AppInventor and
> Arduino.cc.
>
> PS2: I just like what Sean said (but might be frightening at first for
> newcomers ^^)  *Pharo all the way down *
>
>
> But just in case we step into the quicksand even further, in this dystopian
>
> future you can just copy paste this definition:
>
> Pharo is a Pharo app that manages Pharo images, which can be used to make
>
> Pharo apps, which can be used to manage Pharo images, [which can be used to
>
> make Pharo apps, which can be used to manage Pharo images]*
>
>
> Haha, yes it is so fluid it cannot be described only be experienced
> through prolonged exposure, it is truly magical.
>
> Actually, that is not so far from the truth.
>
>

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