>
> Cargo is orthogonal to the need of a centralised repository.

Yes, its idea is to provide one… but we will need a central repo, always.


Yes, but it already has STON manfiests to define the projects
(project-metadata.ston). So why not use/extend the same file.

Peter


On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thierry
>
> May be you are nervous these days. But try to relax and get a positive
> mindset.
> This is not perfect but it is there. You know that we are all full and
> even more.
> So just criticizing is not productive.
>
>
> > One of the issues I have with the Catalog is that it made a mess of the
> > various MetaRrepo for Pharo... Showing in the end that the single place
> one
> > should put a ConfigurationOf for Pharo is the squeak meta repo.
>
> If you find that funny it is not.
> The point of having multiple repo was to make sure that contrary to
> the old squeak experience
> projects would load.
>
>
> > That in addition the Catalog doesn't even use the best package
> management we
> > have at a given point is just salt rubbed in the wound.
>
>
> I do not get what you mean but do not reply.
> I do not think that it will be interested. You are in a ranting mode
> and it deos not help.
>
>
>
> >
> > As you wish. I know it belongs to one of these GUIs where I have to
> spend 10
> > minutes to try to remember what the icons mean. But that's just me.
>
> Come on. There are fly by help
>
> > The key point to me is that the Catalog should reduce the friction it
> > creates, not that the Catalog has to be a perfect solution.
> >
> > For example, do user-stories on it: how do one publish and updates a
> project
> > on the Catalog? What has one to do in CI to ensure a project is validated
> > ... Can the catalog just takes care of that part, if the project has a
> > correct setup (project has tests visible in the configurationOf, catalog
> > does the CI stuff of testing it upon each new release of Pharo, even
> stable
> > because Iceberg breaks stuff when updated in Pharo 6.1, for example).
> Tags
> > for Pharo versions are only granted if project has been tested on CI by
> the
> > Catalog for the current version image you're in, for example.
>
> I have a long todo list too. We just did not get the resources for it.
> Let us face it.
>
>
> > We know how to explore and manipulate project specs already; look into
> the
> > GT tools for the code, and I also use a variant in my AltBrowser when I
> sort
> > all packages under the configuration or baseline they are specified in.
> >
> > In short, make it so that the Catalog is low friction and bring value to
> > both project maintainers and users.
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Stef
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> why to kill it?
> >>> right now we do not have a replacement.
> >>>
> >>> Esteban
> >>>
> >>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 08:42, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi guys
> >>>>
> >>>> What do we do with it?
> >>>> What alternatives?
> >>>>
> >>>> Stef
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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