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> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 1:31 AM > From: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <s...@stfx.eu> > To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > > > > > On 24 Apr 2018, at 00:49, monty <mon...@programmer.net> wrote: > > > > +1. > > > > Replacing is sometimes necessary (Sven's stream work is an obvious > > example), but I don't see why Nautilus had to be junked rather than > > gradually evolved into Calypso. And I don't see why the catalog can't be > > gradually evolved into something better. Killing it off would be > > discouraging to the users who went through the trouble of adding > > #catalogXXX methods to their configs and publishing them to the meta repos. > > Why would they bother adopting whatever replaces the catalog if they think > > it will just get killed off too? > > > > ___ > > montyos.wordpress.com > > Nice blog, BTW! > > Your XML work is much appreciated. > > >> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 9:29 AM > >> From: "Torsten Bergmann" <asta...@gmx.de> > >> To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org > >> Cc: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > >> > >> Hi Stef, > >> > >> do not worry - I'm fully relaxed. It is you - who suggested to kill the > >> catalog - without having > >> or proposing a suitable alternative yet. If you want to route the thread > >> to talking about "idiots" > >> and "assholes" you go offtopic and I guess I have nothing more to > >> contribute to the discussion. > >> > >> If it was not clear from my writing: I only expressed my wish that we > >> should better improve it > >> instead of killing it. That's all. > >> > >> Because anytime we have a better idea we get more disruptive in what we > >> provide ... and this > >> leads to the unfortunate situation: > >> > >> - that we replace our own stuff with newer ones again and again (which can > >> but must not be good > >> as things get more diverse and complicated over time) > >> - that users have to know how things historically have been progressed to > >> find its way > >> through Pharo (including the terms and tools we use) > >> > >> I would not see this as a rant - but rather a true effect we can spot on > >> many places in our > >> ecosystem already. > >> > >> Long story short: I would vote for the "fix" if the sole other option is > >> to "remove". > >> > >> Bye > >> T. > >> > >> > >>> Gesendet: Samstag, 21. April 2018 um 15:31 Uhr > >>> Von: "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > >>> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >>> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > >>> > >>> Torsten > >>> > >>> Sometimes you should relax. Because if you remember I pushed the > >>> catalog (in fact I love it and we need a much more powerful one) > >>> and I even improved it. I made it better to automatically add MC > >>> repositories. > >>> Of course Thierry is exagerating. > >>> > >>> Now we should fix or remove it. Simple no? > >>> > >>> Now you can rant in your corner thinking that I'm asshole. > >>> This is ok for me. > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> wrote: > >>>> Even there is no learning from the past - it's deja vu all over again... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 20. April 2018 um 08:53 Uhr > >>>>> Von: "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > >>>>> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >>>>> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi torsten > >>>>> > >>>>> the wise shows the moon, the idiot sees his finger. > >>>>> > >>>>> Stef > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Now today you had loading trouble with Smacc from Catalog ... and now > >>>>>> directly want to > >>>>>> kill catalog. Wow! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sometimes I have the impression that our community tries to reinvent > >>>>>> itself each day > >>>>>> doing it differently (but not only better) instead of extending, > >>>>>> improving and supporting > >>>>>> what we have have done before. Which sometimes is good ... but not > >>>>>> always. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thx > >>>>>> T. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2018 um 08:42 Uhr > >>>>>>> Von: "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >>>>>>> Betreff: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi guys > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What do we do with it? > >>>>>>> What alternatives? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Stef > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > >
