Hi Stef, do not worry - I'm fully relaxed. It is you - who suggested to kill the catalog - without having or proposing a suitable alternative yet. If you want to route the thread to talking about "idiots" and "assholes" you go offtopic and I guess I have nothing more to contribute to the discussion.
If it was not clear from my writing: I only expressed my wish that we should better improve it instead of killing it. That's all. Because anytime we have a better idea we get more disruptive in what we provide ... and this leads to the unfortunate situation: - that we replace our own stuff with newer ones again and again (which can but must not be good as things get more diverse and complicated over time) - that users have to know how things historically have been progressed to find its way through Pharo (including the terms and tools we use) I would not see this as a rant - but rather a true effect we can spot on many places in our ecosystem already. Long story short: I would vote for the "fix" if the sole other option is to "remove". Bye T. > Gesendet: Samstag, 21. April 2018 um 15:31 Uhr > Von: "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > > Torsten > > Sometimes you should relax. Because if you remember I pushed the > catalog (in fact I love it and we need a much more powerful one) > and I even improved it. I made it better to automatically add MC > repositories. > Of course Thierry is exagerating. > > Now we should fix or remove it. Simple no? > > Now you can rant in your corner thinking that I'm asshole. > This is ok for me. > > Stef > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> wrote: > > Even there is no learning from the past - it's deja vu all over again... > > > > > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 20. April 2018 um 08:53 Uhr > >> Von: "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > >> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > >> > >> Hi torsten > >> > >> the wise shows the moon, the idiot sees his finger. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> wrote: > >> > Now today you had loading trouble with Smacc from Catalog ... and now > >> > directly want to > >> > kill catalog. Wow! > >> > > >> > Sometimes I have the impression that our community tries to reinvent > >> > itself each day > >> > doing it differently (but not only better) instead of extending, > >> > improving and supporting > >> > what we have have done before. Which sometimes is good ... but not > >> > always. > >> > > >> > Thx > >> > T. > >> > > >> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2018 um 08:42 Uhr > >> >> Von: "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > >> >> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >> >> Betreff: [Pharo-dev] Do we kill the catalog? > >> >> > >> >> Hi guys > >> >> > >> >> What do we do with it? > >> >> What alternatives? > >> >> > >> >> Stef > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
