> Am 11.01.2019 um 11:33 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:
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>> On 11 Jan 2019, at 08:45, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> You know? since we are sharing frustrations, I have to say: we already had
>> that process (which was the old pharo-vm project). In that project, for each
>> version of vmmaker we were loading it, generating a vm and running pharo
>> tests there (since there are no vm-specific tests, this was working at least
>> to test things were not broken).
>> And… we were told this was not good and that we needed to submit to the
>> canonical way of building the vm, which we did to not split more the
>> community.
>>
>> In the process we lost all our validation process.
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>> Now we are told that we remove things without caring.
>> But we care, and we spent a lot of time and effort putting in place
>> mechanisms to allow things to continue moving.
>> And then we needed to throw it away.
>>
>> Maybe now we have a new attempt and possibility of improving, but honestly I
>> already spent one year of the work this community pays me to do to improve
>> things and then it was wasted work.
>> I do not thing I want to spend another “sabatical” year like that.
>>
>> Esteban
>>
>> Ps: I’m sorry for the frustration rant, but when I see this things emerge I
>> become very-very sad.
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> One can only image, dream, of a world where VM development decided years ago
> to step into the future with a better process, better code management, modern
> tools, actual CI, tests, open process for real, welcoming more contributors,
> catering for its largest user base.
> We live in an ever changing world, resisting change is not the solution.
>
> Open source is about embracing and nurturing community, and yes that is
> sometimes messy, but totally worth it.
>
Amen 🙏
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